As someone who lost two parents by 60, to alcohol, I hope Johnâs passing can serve as a reminder to those struggling that today is a great day to get sober. There is no shame in the fact that youâre an alcoholic or any other dependency youâre facing. What youâre feeling is real, difficult to overcome, but not insurmountable.
Thereâs an AA meeting near you thatâs probably happening in a few hours. And, if AA isnât your thing, there are other alternatives as well. I hope you can find a way to make it there, and begin the journey you deserve to live a long, healthy, fulfilling life.
question : is your premise based around the fact that the coroner's report cited chronic alcohol related injury, or the testimony of his friends or family?
My mother's autopsy and subsequent coroner's testimony stated that she had alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver, indications of alcohol-enabled pancreatitis, and cardiovascular evidence of alcohol abuse..
thing is -- I had lived with her and taken care of her for 20+ years. She hadn't touched alcohol during that time. She stated that before that time that she had been an occasional light social drinker -- and her social community backed her up on that conclusion; there was no real evidence of alcohol abuse in her life.
She had other vices; she smoked until death. She didn't drink.
She died at 65.
So, I ask because I no longer trust coroner's reports wholeheartedly. I think they intend well, and I think they're probably roughly accurate about the state of the body at death -- but I think they probably miss a lot of nuance and probably come up with a lot of shoddy predictions regarding 'lived lifestyle'.
P.S. if you ended up curious as to why she had all that internal injury -- she had a terrible fight with necrotizing fasciitis on one of her legs after an injury during gardening from a rose thorn and subsequent infection earlier in her life -- her ICU stay was extremely long and filled with experimental drugs/antibiotics that came with all sorts of precautions and side effects.
Her GP at the time believed the liver damage to be caused by one of the (many) antibiotics.
Yes. Just going off the public report by the sheriffâs department. My message stands whether or not folks believe the report is accurate. Hundreds die every day from alcohol abuse, whether or not John was one of them.
As someone who lost their Mother while she was in here 50's to alcohol, I just want to say thank you for showing some compassion. I would do anything to have my Mother with me still here, today.
Did she by chance drink a lot of soda or other sugar drinks? Or was she a diabetic? I've heard that high blood sugar causes the similar types of damage.
I believe the term is "non-alcoholic fatty liver disease". My mother hasn't had alcohol in 40 years, but apparently her liver tells a different story. She does love chocolate, however.
I struggle with alcohol dependency because I have a great time with alcohol. However, I am pretty sure it hold me back and makes me unhealthy and fat.
I did go to an AA meeting once and honestly it creeped me the fuck out. Extremely culty, the people pouring their hearts out was moving but the level of fucked their life had become honestly made me feel less like I needed anything that severe.
Alcohol consumption is a fun, positive thing in the most part for me - it is a culture I enjoy. I know it is expensive and there are multiple downsides, but I'd be interested in a more reasonable approach to reducing the amount I drink, something less absolutist.
Iâd be curious to know how much you drink.
I also have what I consider to be an alcohol dependency. In much the same way - practically identical in fact - to my caffeine dependency. I can skip the 2 glasses of wine and finger of scotch in the evening without much trouble , but, like skipping my morning coffee, the evening is less enjoyable
There are therapists who specialize in substance abuse outside the AA model. You should call around to some local therapists and see if anyone feels like they might be a fit. They can also help you to understand what if any problem does exist for you.
As if sober people live forever...
Youâre right. Children die seconds after coming into this world, and cancer and disease can kill the most healthy of us.
I would have wished for that end for my father, rather than the squalor, isolation, and suffering that found him for nearly half a decade before he died. Or for my step mother, not being found for weeks after her passing because she drank herself to death on her birthday.
Mother Nature is cruel. We donât need to load the deck for her.
P.S.: Iâm not sure what happened in your life than led you to want to make snarky remarks in response to someone sharing about the death of a loved one, and hoping people get help for a disease that not only impacts them but those that love them. It seems to me that it must have been really traumatic or difficult to make you want to do that. There are some really wonderful therapists out in this world that Iâm sure could help give you the tools to help move past those emotions and act with more empathy.
The Peewee Herman show was a fond memory of my childhood, and I tip my hat to everyone involved.
I wonder if heâd be seen as a Mr Rogers Lite if not for the unfortunate movie theater incident. He did help raise a generation of us in a more 80s/90s style compared to the reserved styling of Rogers.
He has actually done a remarkable amount of voice acting: https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0000607/filmotype/actor?ref_=m_nmf...
I loved the 80s movie "Flight of the Navigator" where he played Max, the alien ship robot, remarkably well. You could tell it was him because Max's laugh was Peewee's laugh: https://youtu.be/fjv7k54YTa0
Slightly off topic, but Captain Disillusionment did a great video recently on Flight of the Navigator: https://youtu.be/tyixMpuGEL8
He was absolutely my Mr. Rogers.
I could care less about him masturbating in an adult movie theater.
Reubens' comedy is a little more subversive. Letterman had it right:
"What makes me laugh about (Peewee) is that it has the external structure of a bratty little precocious kid, but you know it's being controlled by the incubus -- the manifestation of evil itself."
I don't think so. His stuff by today's standards was very un-woke (John's genie character itself would probably be considered an offensive stereotype) and there are YouTube videos compiled of clips that show unambiguous double entendres that would be considered child-corrupting.
What happened to Rubens for the movie theater incident was incredibly harsh, I think even for that era, but I just don't think that a show as deliberately weird as Peewee's Playhouse would be well received today by parents and cultural stewards. A shame though, Rubens was a really great performing artist.
Artists always catch shit from the status quo supporting boring scolds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ22N3Y9f70
art that isnât at least a little subversive is very rarely any good.
Too weird for today? Have you seen Yo Gabba Gabba?
Parents of today like weird. And yes, maybe some stuff would be offensive in today's context, but not that bad.
We watched a couple of the old Pee-Wee movies with my kids and a bit of some of the old shows and they loved them. We're very lefty and I don't recall anything in them that raised any particular alarm bells.
> unambiguous double entendres
An oxymoron if ever there was one?
My mother was on the conservative-Christian side and didnât allow us to watch PeeWee. I donât really know what her reasons were.
> Paragon died on April 3, 2021 at his home in Palm Springs, California, at the age of 66. His cause of death was heart disease and chronic alcohol abuse. News of his death was not made public until June.
From wikipedia for the curious.
Well, that puts a damper on something that was already sad.
According to almost all comics, being really funny means you're probably messed up in some way. It's a sad reality of how our minds work.
It's a shame deep multi-decade relationships are so rare =/
Probably because people change over time. Change is inevitable, love can be conditional.
Also most people don't want to put in the work to maintain relationships for this long.
The trick is to find the people who will because itâs as important to them as it is to you.
âThe wish is granted. Long live Jambi.â
greatly appreciate that this could make it to the top of hacker news.
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Shine on forever, Shine on benevolent sun
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