Steve,
I'd like to know if I can use the SDK to build workflow/process diagrams that specify inputs, outputs, and side effects (ie, this process creates a pile of logs or documentation) and then export a process specification for use in another application.
My specific use case is process mapping and quality systems implementation in a hardware engineering setting.
That sounds really useful. There's no export yet here apart from images and it isn't something I've thought about much so far. Are there standard formats for these types of workflows?
I'd like to echo the impressiveness of tldraw. At the BigBlueButton project, an open source virtual classroom, we built tldraw into the core. It has saved us countless development hours as we stopped trying to build our own whiteboard and instead stood on tldraw's (very) wide shoulders. We've never looked back.
I ended up at Tldraw's London office a few weeks ago for a thing, and I remember afterwards being like 'ahh, now I understand how they end up just casually doing random cool shit and attracting the kind of talent they do'.
They should be extremely proud of the culture they've managed to foster and I genuinely hope to see them succeed as a business.
Very much this! I was also at a thing at their office a few weeks ago (some thing? "Local Thirst"), and Steve gave a demo of this. It is incredible.
I've joked before that the last generation of human machine interfaces ware invented at Xerox park, and the next generation is being invented at TLDraw of Finsbury Park. But it's not really a joke, I genuinely believe it.
Ha yeah, that was the same thing! The night it rained sideways.
So this is the demo people were talking about at the end of the night! I was quite annoyed I missed it, makes sense now. I think I was nerding out over current-gen HIDs while eyeing up their very tastefully equipped coffee station (ozone roasters ftw)
It was a cool thing... I expected a hacky demo that'd fall apart mid-way but it held up. The Macintosh SE in the office was cool too.
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Tell us more about what you saw?
Didn't expect the blog post to go to a Google Gemini page: https://ai.google.dev/showcase/tldraw
Even "vanilla" tldraw is super cool as a clean, functional, open-source html5 whiteboard, and the team have absolutely been killing it in their comms and use of LLMs. I honestly think they might be some of the most innovative people around when it comes to really novel UI for LLMs. Also, Todepond is just very cool.
does the cloud product’s “new project” button still trash your saved documents with one click behind a docstring something like “make sure you have saved your stuff before making a new project” where what they meant is “our cloud product does not save your projects to the cloud, it is in local storage actually and you can only have one project at a time so the new project button actually overwrites your old one, so when we say ‘save’ we actually mean export your stuff to a json file and save to local disk!! so you can re-import it back into the product later from local disk and overwrite it back!!!!” I did my VC seed pitch deck in tldraw along with a bunch of product mocks, ask me how i know this
So sorry Dustin. We'll have a new version of tldraw with user accounts in a few weeks that should improve things, but until then please no one clear your browser storage
a clear docstring would be great
File > New Shared Project -- and your problem is solved. Remember to bookmark your work, since there is no login/account/automatic storage.
And ("vanilla") tldraw supports subpixel font rendering, unlike most of their competition (for example excalidraw or Miro).
I didn't know Todepond worked on tldraw. That's cool.
> really novel UI for LLMs
Are you referring to Tldraw Computer or something else? Don't get me wrong, it looks really nice but not that different from other graph representations of LLM workflows, including live updates in the nodes themselves.
hello it's me Todepond
Do you somewhere have slides/recordings from the awesome AI tinkerers talk you did? Because that's what I had in mind when I made this comment and will be way easier than me trying to describe it
Hi Lu
If I can plug my own API key into this and/or run Llama locally, that'd be great.
It reminds me of a tool I saw recently called Heuristica [0]. Would like to try it but I don't like being tied to a subscription and the free plan seems quite limited if I can't even plug my own key in. Don't see why this can't do what Heuristica does! :)
Hey there! Thanks for mentioning Heuristica. I would love to find out how to make the free plan for Heuristica to be more permissive (without destroying the incentive to subscribe for willing users). Feel free to send me your suggestions.
At one point, I also worked on making it work with a personal API key. However, this added a lot of complexity. It felt like I was building and maintaining two separate branches of the same app, so I had to put the idea on hold. I might revisit it in the future.
Hey! To be honest, I am not sure my feedback would be very valuable. I'm probably your worst type of user -- perma free plan -- simply because I'd only use your tool sporadically. I don't do literature reviews that often, but often enough to think about using a tool like this I suppose.
I totally get it though, it's a difficult thing to balance. If I was doing lit review and deep research daily 6.99 is an amazing deal.
I am still happy to hear from a fellow user! Feel free to ping me if you ever have feature recommendations or suggestions.
I got to see this demo'd at a conference in Sydney recently, and it's really cool.
It's not super serious, but it's not meant to be -- it's not pitching to be your enterprise AI strategy. However, even though it's presented in a playful way, I suspect it's quite powerful, and expect The Internets will build some cool stuff atop it.
It's a fun and creative way to explore playing with LLM's, and it's brilliantly executed! Happy to see it here on HN.
I want to use Tldraw as a simpler alternative to Figma. I want to drag and drop Web Components (or React components) into the canvas to play around with different UI ideas. Maybe a built in library of Shadcn components I could mock up an UI with.
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