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2 days ago by unshavedyak

Alright, i had plans to use Github (or maybe something Cloudflare ish) but your $2/m has me seriously interested. I'm reviewing now.

I hate when i see fun side projects that cost the same as full subscriptions to other products. There's only a handful of $15/m services i "want" in my life.. it really raises the barrier to entry when i'm so aware and averse to subscription costs.

Yet $2/m? Instantly sold on that price. It's a fun price, it looks like a fun product, it lines up perfectly for me. It's silly that the price has me almost more interested than the product. Love it

Thanks for this, i plan to try it out!

2 days ago by unshavedyak

Bandwidth limitations has me chuckling though: https://pico.sh/faq#are-there-any-bandwidth-limitations

Any thoughts on how the review will happen when that barrier is reached?

2 days ago by wongarsu

Traffic isn't actually that expensive outside of big clouds. No idea where pico is hosted, but Hetzner gives you "unlimited" 1Gps connections with a dedicated server, or a 10G uplink charged at $1.20/TB (plus a fixed monthly fee for the uplink itself).

2 days ago by shishcat

I have good reasons to believe this is hosted on Oracle's free tier. Apart from the fact that pinging pico.sh points to an Oracle IP, the 10TB limit is consistent with Oracle Free Tier's limit.

2 days ago by iambrandonm

Totally feel you on this and kudos to these guys, low pricing makes it so much easier to actually try something without second-guessing. Iā€™m working on a similar philosophy with my own project, 99dev ā€” simple tools for indie devs at just $1/month. Starting with lightweight analytics (like a mini Plausible), but more tools are on the way. No bloat, just useful stuff for folks like us who are building things and watching our budgets.

Really glad to see more projects like pico.sh embracing low cost, no frills, indie services. https://99.dev

a day ago by ryao

You could use GitHub pages + cloudflare for free hosting. My neighbor uses that.

a day ago by blatantly

$2 is fun for hobbies but hope you are not running in production for your customers with that sort of service level!

20 hours ago by qudat

Thanks for the comment because I think many -- including myself -- resonate with this sentiment. Our pricing strategy was to be competitive with a user just provisioning their own VPS VM with a cloud provider. Our goal is to be competitive on price with a $5/mo VM.

Further, we are mostly targeting individual/small teams who want to rapidly prototype on the web. We provide enough convenience features (e.g. zero-install, multi-region, site analytics, tunnel connect/disconnect notifications, easy script automation) to entice users to keep their prototypes running in "prod" as long as possible before they feel the need to provision their own VPS.

We could go upstream and try to target larger teams/companies, but honestly, this is just fun for us to do on the side.

We don't make any guarantees about uptime at this point but we take it very seriously (we have alerting and respond quickly) and treat it like our day-jobs (I work at a paas and antonio is a platform engineer wizard).

21 hours ago by unshavedyak

For static sites is there that much missing? Throw a good CDN in front of this and would it matter much who the host was?

15 hours ago by blatantly

At $2/m SRE is powered by love only.

2 days ago by qudat

Co-Founder here, thanks for the interest in our micro-saas powered by SSH.

Happy to answer any questions!

a day ago by LelouBil

Hey, I was just reading your docs, maybe prose.sh will be what I'll use to finally start a blog !

I noticed this mention here [0]:

    Because in our Go SSH server we re-implement rsync, many options are currently not supported. For example, --delete and --dry-run are not supported.
But on your front page it says :

    Upload your static site to us:
    rsync --delete -rv ./public/ pgs.sh:/mysite/

So do you support delete ? One of these pages is outdated or did I miss something ?

[0] https://pico.sh/file-uploads

a day ago by antoniomika

Woops! Delete is supported, will update that as well

18 hours ago by WinstonSmith84

So I understand I can redirect my custom domain to Pico Pages, Pico Prose, etc. Can I however do the other way around? Can I create somehow a CNAME on my Pico.sh account (such as username-myapp.pgs.sh points to abc.xyz.com)? In essence, I'd like to be able to get a certificate and set a secure https connection to e.g. my Load Balancer my-alb-12345.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com or similar.

18 hours ago by antoniomika

Yep! tuns would be the service you want since it can support forwarding arbitrary backends: https://pico.sh/tuns#custom-domains

a day ago by memset

I remember seeing this a couple of years ago on HN!

Would you be willing to share how itā€™s doing on the business side? Hints on how youā€™ve grown users or how many folks are willing to subscribe?

Iā€™d love to build a service (in a different domain) that operates as simply as this.

20 hours ago by qudat

> Would you be willing to share how itā€™s doing on the business side? Hints on how youā€™ve grown users or how many folks are willing to subscribe?

Yes, absolutely. Here's our year-end-review where we talk numbers: https://blog.pico.sh/status-011

Ultimately, what keeps us going is we want these services to exist for our own side-project development and it's an extra boost of motivation when others use our services.

All of our marketing is through HN/lobsters/reddit since that's our target demo.

a day ago by cfebs

Sorry if I didn't catch this on the site, but any new upcoming services you are excited about?

A ssh or TUI frontend for some git/forge host like: https://forgejo.org/ would be pretty cool!

an hour ago by paul_h

If not using the custom domain stuff, cookies need protection via Set-Cookie with `SameSite=Strict`, right? I couldn't see a note in the documentation

a day ago by TheTaytay

I stumbled across this clever service when looking for a ā€œpastebinā€ that handled rendering terminal output with ANSI codes. The irony is that they donā€™t actually allow that (just plain text can be piped to their pastes service), but I found their whole site and vibe delightful!

And the two authors, qudat, and antoniomima are active on HN, as their responsive comments here demonstrate. Just good work all around.

a day ago by jwr

Love the idea, but I couldn't find a "pricing" page and wanted to abandon reading immediately (I have no time for unsustainable services). Then I learned from the discussion that the pricing is $2/m, which, two things: 1) I still can't find that price on the web site, and 2) it seems unsustainable to me, so I'm still worried.

I run a B2B SaaS. Support costs is what eats you alive: in case of a complex B2B app anything below $40/month is unsustainable. This is of course better for simpler apps/services, but even there you have to be super careful.

a day ago by jimbosis

I had the same frustration as you with finding the pricing information. With some serendipitous clicking, I managed to find it!

https://pico.sh/plus

It does also mention there is a $0 "Starter" tier.

(I found that link on this page:

https://pico.sh/pgs )

EDIT: Mention the Starter tier.

20 hours ago by qudat

Thank you for the feedback and we agree so we have changed the header nav link from "pico+" to "pricing".

In terms of the costs to run a saas, we are actively monitoring hardware utilization and resource allocation. Antonio and I have a lot of experience building and running saas (and paas) products so we feel confident we can manage whatever usage comes our way. We have also been strategic in terms of the services we provide in an effort to keep service support manageable.

a day ago by cookiemonsieur

> I run a B2B SaaS. Support costs is what eats you alive: in case of a complex B2B app anything below $40/month is unsustainable

I agree to an extent. But it largely depends on the complexity of your offering. If all you do is expose flat data through an API, you can maybe get away with an API Gateway x Lambda x DynamoDB combo, which would cost virtually nothing as the free tier is very generous.

Just my 2c.

7 hours ago by jwr

Well, but that API Gateway x Lambda x DynamoDB combo will not answer support E-mails, will it?

Especially with B2B, it's easy to underestimate the support load for non-technical issues.

4 hours ago by cookiemonsieur

> Well, but that API Gateway x Lambda x DynamoDB combo will not answer support E-mails, will it?

How does that factor into the $40/month price point ?

a day ago by lionkor

$40/month per user, just for support? So for 1000 users, you need to make $40,000 to be sustainable, i.e. like 10 employees?

8 hours ago by jwr

If you think you can run a business with 10 high-skilled employees on $40,000 of revenue per month, boy, have I got news for you :-)

Similarly, if you think 1000 B2B SaaS subscriptions is an easy-to-achieve number, I'd wager a bet you haven't run a B2B SaaS business.

Roughly, the calculation is: at $40/month, a single subscription brings in $480/year. That means you can safely afford to spend roughly one hour of support on a subscription PER YEAR. If you spend more than 2h, you are definitely in the red. And you will get support requests, of all kinds: the ones you expect, and then all the stuff about lost passwords, inability to log in, network problems, lost invoices, requests to change the billing period, requests for invoices from last year for a customer that has since canceled and been deleted, data export/import, etc.

People who haven't run a business routinely underestimate the costs of running a business and imagine that these numbers mean that business owners are buying yachts and private jets. People who have run a business realize that it's much more difficult to make ends meet than it seems.

17 hours ago by conductr

I'm thinking not much support is needed for user's that are willing and able to do all these tasks over SSH. They've pre-filtered for low support load

Back in early 2000s I ran a shared webhosting business, most customer's were savvy at the time and it was kind of a "you're on your own, let me know if the infra is acting up" type arrangement. I ran it with about 2000 customers for a year or so solo and only got about 2 support emails a day. Back then, 24-72 hour response was acceptable so I never needed to be a 24/7 resource.

a day ago by blatantly

Yeah I think this why "Book a call" level customers are really subsidising it. Say $10/m/u and you get 200 seats. You pay $2000/m but the bugs you hit are likely uniform so you loaf support like maybe 20 individual users. 20 individual users only bring in 10%. So you need the whales to keep it going.

2 days ago by taylorbuley

Pretty unrelated, but if you are a developer and don't have a lifetime SDF.org membership, you should.

a day ago by hebocon

Why SDF over a free limitless VPS?

I joined SDF last year and was disappointed. I was willing to tolerate the limitations (eg. can't change your shell unless "validated"; can't even 'touch' a file...) in exchange for community but it's a ghost town. To make matters worse, IRC for new users is only available on a Sunday!

I would love to give it another shot but I don't understand what its value is in 2025.

2 days ago by palata

I had never heard of that. What's your use-case for it?

a day ago by IgorPartola

It basically dates back to when having access to a Unix system meant that you needed to be at a university or a big employer or some such. These guys provided one for free.

Currently you can get some basic email, web hosting, etc. for a one time $1 donation. You can get more for a one time $36 donation.

They also have internal ā€œforumsā€ and chat and such as well as offering a bunch of related services like VPS, dial up, VPN, a Minecraft server, etc. Realistically, you can get a lot more for a lot less with modern hosts but between nostalgia and the limited environment having a particular kind of charm, it is kinda neat.

14 hours ago by palata

Right. Some kind of community, in a way.

a day ago by polishdude20

So this seems to be a membership to access a remote Unix system and share it with others?

21 hours ago by oldandboring

Very timely for this to come up. Just this morning I was wiring up a personal blog with Obsidian -> Hugo -> Github Pages. I might swap Github Pages out for Pico.sh, it's definitely my kinda service. Well, either that or self-host it.

a day ago by stego-tech

Love the KISS approach to your services. Simple text files, built on fundamental services. Honestly also a great way to build SSH (and associated suite) chops for folks just entering Linux/Unix/BSD/*nix world or who only know Windows.

Going to poke at it this week myself. Looks like a healthy competitor to PikaPods for the basic stuff.

Keep up the good work!

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